*important note: This is a theory. It's meant to intrigue your mind and get you questioning things. All I ask is that you consider it. This is by no means proven, nor will it or its opposing views ever be.
so just chill :D
and enjoy-
God does not adhere to the laws of time.
got it?
He lives outside of time.
We experience time as a series of events, much like if you were to look at a 3D human body, but you lived in the 2nd dimension, you would see 2D cutouts (<-- plural) of the person as they passed by. [if you don't understand this there is a visual in my video called "the ten dimensions" in an earlier blog] well, God lives outside of time. think about that. outside of time. can you imagine seeing yourself coming out of the womb and into the casket and everything in between at the same point? Could you imagine seeing yourself both finish and start a race and all the running in between at one time?
exactly.
I believe that even though God is all knowing, the reason he is is because he is watching it unfold,
but its like he can see the entire timeline of the the universe in one object.
so while he does know the outcome of things, and he can predict things for someone at a certain point in time, he is also watching that very thing happening at the same time, as well as everything that has ever happened or will happen to it in its entire history.
so the uses of past tense and future tense are thrown out the window and whenever you talk about any event ever you use the present tense.
He lives outside of time.
We experience time as a series of events, much like if you were to look at a 3D human body, but you lived in the 2nd dimension, you would see 2D cutouts (<-- plural) of the person as they passed by. [if you don't understand this there is a visual in my video called "the ten dimensions" in an earlier blog] well, God lives outside of time. think about that. outside of time. can you imagine seeing yourself coming out of the womb and into the casket and everything in between at the same point? Could you imagine seeing yourself both finish and start a race and all the running in between at one time?
exactly.
I believe that even though God is all knowing, the reason he is is because he is watching it unfold,
but its like he can see the entire timeline of the the universe in one object.
so while he does know the outcome of things, and he can predict things for someone at a certain point in time, he is also watching that very thing happening at the same time, as well as everything that has ever happened or will happen to it in its entire history.
so the uses of past tense and future tense are thrown out the window and whenever you talk about any event ever you use the present tense.
Why does this matter?
I don't really believe either way, predestination or otherwise, because its both to me.
Confusing?
I don't really believe either way, predestination or otherwise, because its both to me.
Confusing?
really.
but just hear me out, its all about ideas, and none of us can ever be sure we're right anyways.
so-
He sees it all as one SINGULAR thing from the big bang to the end of the universe.
So if you live above the time-line, and you no longer experience time, everything you ever do is done at one point (which is IMPOSSIBLE to define, much like a point on a graph), because you live ABOVE time. You see time you DO NOT experience time.
So when God got himself set up, he did everything at one point, just at different "sections" on our time line.
which were really done at one "time" for him.
So if you live above the time-line, and you no longer experience time, everything you ever do is done at one point (which is IMPOSSIBLE to define, much like a point on a graph), because you live ABOVE time. You see time you DO NOT experience time.
So when God got himself set up, he did everything at one point, just at different "sections" on our time line.
which were really done at one "time" for him.
so he's not like a computer that predicts things that happen, because he's not predicting it. He's seeing it. He neither changes things before, during, or after it has happened, because those things do not apply to someone outside the time-line. He just changes it. It's instantaneous. It just happens. For a reason, but it happens.
So you can't say he set things up like a clock and let it swing because he is involved in things "while they are happening". But at the same time it isn't the opposite because he's not experiencing it as a sequence of events.
ok ok i know its confusing,
but just imagine if you put a drop of water on a vertical wall, and you want it to follow a certain path, but its just going to go straight down and you know this, and you want to time it going from point A to B.
so you have your clock at 0.0000.... sec. and at different points, you alter the path to point B from point A, and you get your desired outcome knowing what will happen every time you change it. Then you start the clock and release the water at the same time, but when the water finally gets to point B, and you stop the clock, the clock still reads 0.0000.... sec.
So you both
1) set it up to get a predestined result
So you can't say he set things up like a clock and let it swing because he is involved in things "while they are happening". But at the same time it isn't the opposite because he's not experiencing it as a sequence of events.
ok ok i know its confusing,
but just imagine if you put a drop of water on a vertical wall, and you want it to follow a certain path, but its just going to go straight down and you know this, and you want to time it going from point A to B.
so you have your clock at 0.0000.... sec. and at different points, you alter the path to point B from point A, and you get your desired outcome knowing what will happen every time you change it. Then you start the clock and release the water at the same time, but when the water finally gets to point B, and you stop the clock, the clock still reads 0.0000.... sec.
So you both
1) set it up to get a predestined result
and
2) actively involved yourself in the "time line" or path of the drop of water because at 0.00000.... sec you dropped the water and at 0.00000.... sec the water reached point B (because you're outside the time line)
so at one "point" you watch the entire life of the drop of water and alter it. So you can't really say that you changed things before the drop went down or while it went down.
And thus we have the 4dimensional universe (4 dimensions = length, width, depth, time)
pretty cool eh?
what do you think?
so at one "point" you watch the entire life of the drop of water and alter it. So you can't really say that you changed things before the drop went down or while it went down.
And thus we have the 4dimensional universe (4 dimensions = length, width, depth, time)
pretty cool eh?
what do you think?
2 comments:
Cade you make me quite proud to have you as a little brother. I've sat through many talks on predestination, and I couldn't agree with you more. God set up our universe to follow certain physical laws. He saw that it was in an orderly, explainable fashion that we could figure out. As you said, God works in both the same dimension as us and yet is still above all dimensions.
To help further your cause, here is a brief explanation of how time is just another dimension, and not this eternal constant that we think of it as. Einstein was quite a man, and he came up with a theory known as Special Relativity. (Note: this is not the same as General Relativity; they are two separate theories!) Special Relativity says that the speed of light is the same in all reference frames. This means that if I'm moving at 1 million meters/second and you are still, and a beam of light travels past you and me in the same direction, we both will measure the speed of light as the same thing. In other words, I can never "catch up" with light; my super fast speed has no effect on the speed I measured for light. This is counterintuitive. The reason is because light is essentially our measure of time, the 4th dimension. A weird thing that comes out of this is time dilation: the faster you travel, the slower time moves for you. So time is completely irrelevant as we measure it in terms of the universe. Its just one more dimension, but it limits us. To God it has no limit, for him it doesn't even exist.
Screwtape again?
but well put, although, who could the stop watch could measure time (even if the time is no time) in a world without time? lol
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